Curse

VanDamselx · Jan 16, 2007, 08:38 PM // 20:38

I have always used WoH on my monk, and I still do today. However, when I was going into FoW, a monk argued relentlessly about how WoH is now a useless elite and there are many better ones out there. Am I now running an outdated build? I just wanted to know the community's take on this (and sorry if this is in the wrong spot).

Wilhelm · Jan 16, 2007, 08:54 PM // 20:54

Nah, WoH is still very viable, and useful. There are just new skills courtesy of Nightfall that provide variety.

Glimmer of Light - Low cost, fast recharge, low powered heal.
Light of Deliverence - Low cost, conditional heal party.

There is also skills such as Healer's Boon, which can be taken in certain instances.

-Wilhelm

sn0w1337 · Jan 16, 2007, 08:58 PM // 20:58

Zealous Benediction!!!!! Yah, but that's prot.

Acidic Won · Jan 16, 2007, 09:00 PM // 21:00

sure WoH is still viable in PvE.. so is heal breeze.. honestly i dont use WoH, WoH is soooo scarce in GvG.. HA its there mainly for the 50% spike heal (why not just use ZB?) and its in healing which makes heal seed stronger but in GvG.. WoH is a no no.. Ensign actually wrote 2 articles on why WoH sucks... somewhere out there..

the_jos · Jan 16, 2007, 09:34 PM // 21:34

Still a good skill for PvE.

It has very conditional healing (heals the best when target is under 50%, which you want to prevent).
If you have Factions or Nightfall, consider looking at their elites on wiki.
It could be that those elites work better in your build than WoH.

Effigy · Jan 16, 2007, 09:44 PM // 21:44

I'd take Healer's Boon over WoH anyday. Hell, I can get a WoH-sized heal from normal 5e spells using HBoon, and they cast faster too.

pegasux · Jan 16, 2007, 09:54 PM // 21:54

I would have to agree with Effigy...i love Healers Boon

creelie · Jan 16, 2007, 10:58 PM // 22:58

Word is still my staple. Whenever you're getting into serious fights, the activating condition (<50% health) is not a problem. I also intensely distrust any skill that threatens my energy reserve, either by being a maintained enchantment or by costing more than 5 energy.

You know what skill I'm sort of amazed isn't elite? Dwayna's Kiss. At least in PvE chances are good most of the team has both enchantments and hexes coming out the wazoo.

Age · Jan 17, 2007, 01:19 AM // 01:19

It is still a good skill as far as I am concerned and I still use it but Healers Boon is nice and if you are Protecting ZB.I still like life sheath as well.The thing with Word is it is a Core skill so it is in every chapter.

Arkantos · Jan 17, 2007, 01:28 AM // 01:28

I'd take ZB over WoH anyday. With ZB you still have room on your bar for GoH, and you get all the great prot skills. Also, while under 50% health, WoH and ZB both heal for the same amount of health, but WoH costs 5e compared to ZB costing 10e PLUS the 10e you get back.

Bryant Again · Jan 17, 2007, 01:35 AM // 01:35

WoH still works nice. I've been using it for Dunkie all through Nightfall. He spams both WoH and ZB regardless of under 50% health, though, so he doesn't get the energy back from ZB a lot.

ubermancer · Jan 17, 2007, 04:56 AM // 04:56

Blessed Light really doesnt leave my bar if Im a healer.

bungusmaximus · Jan 17, 2007, 09:34 AM // 09:34

No-one using healing light? I think it's great, in pve i make much use of eles and protection. Dunkoro heals practically for free with all the enchantments everywhere

Sab · Jan 17, 2007, 02:07 PM // 14:07

Sure, WoH still works, but the NF elites are so much better. If you have NF, I see no reason why you'd still use WoH.

Pick Me · Jan 17, 2007, 02:21 PM // 14:21

Prophecies only - Word Of Healing
Factions only - Blessed Light
Nightfall only - Zealous Benediction or Healer's Boon

I don't have any NF elites, so I can't say. For me BL has taken over as my elite, over WoH.

For 10 energy, it heals, removes 1 condition and 1 hex. Can any other monk spell say that?

Franco Power · Jan 17, 2007, 02:49 PM // 14:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pick Me

Prophecies only - Word Of Healing
Factions only - Blessed Light
Nightfall only - Zealous Benediction or Healer's Boon

I don't have any NF elites, so I can't say. For me BL has taken over as my elite, over WoH.

For 10 energy, it heals, removes 1 condition and 1 hex. Can any other monk spell say that?

Yes, it can.
[skill]Divert Hexes[/skill]

Can remove up to 3 conditions, 3 hexes and heal

bungusmaximus · Jan 17, 2007, 02:57 PM // 14:57

Target has to be hexed though to get the heal, thats a drawback compared to Blight, which always heals. I don't say that Divert isn't powerful, dont get me wrong, it's incredible, but it's no substitute for Blight.

Pick Me · Jan 17, 2007, 03:01 PM // 15:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendary Ultimatum

Yes, it can.
[skill]Divert Hexes[/skill]

Can remove up to 3 conditions, 3 hexes and heal

Oh. I didn't see that. That must be a Nightfall skill.

Sadly its conditional. Only good if you are hexed. BL heals, and then removes 1 condition and 1 hex.

Heals less, takes longer to cast. Only better than BL if you have multiple conditions and hexes on you.

But thanks for showing it to me.

NinjaKai · Jan 17, 2007, 05:30 PM // 17:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pick Me

Oh. I didn't see that. That must be a Nightfall skill.

Sadly its conditional. Only good if you are hexed. BL heals, and then removes 1 condition and 1 hex.

Heals less, takes longer to cast. Only better than BL if you have multiple conditions and hexes on you.

But thanks for showing it to me.

Conditional yes. But its application is pretty wide unlike most condtional skills. I mean there are plenty of areas which have heavy hexes.

XvArchonvX · Jan 17, 2007, 05:51 PM // 17:51

Personally, I think Protection in General has been improved enough so that it can replace most PvE heal monks (Prot has always pwned in PvP, but it's usefulness in PvE was a bit more arguable at first imo). With Zealous Benediction, a monk can have strong healing power, but be able to invest in the prot line to reduce the damage taken and prevent players from being spiked before they can be healed.

In comparison using strictly the healing line, I think that Healer's Boon is indeed a bit better since it makes almost every heal stronger than WoH. Maintaining 1 enchant really isn't too much of a burden when you only generally have to use 1 5 energy heal spell to fill up an ally's bar in most cases and the recharge as well as cast time are very small, so it's easily recast if it gets stripped.